1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:35,430 [Music] 2 00:01:05,350 --> 00:00:45,040 t-minus one minute 3 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:05,360 [Music] 4 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:12,210 t-minus 30 seconds 5 00:01:24,630 --> 00:01:20,660 we are go for launch 6 00:01:28,469 --> 00:01:24,640 [Music] 7 00:01:32,310 --> 00:01:28,479 t-minus 10 9 8 8 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:32,320 7 6 5 4 9 00:01:38,069 --> 00:01:36,000 3 2 1. 10 00:01:39,350 --> 00:01:38,079 welcome to the nasa social for the mars 11 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:39,360 2020 mission 12 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:11,840 [Music] 13 00:02:26,949 --> 00:02:25,430 welcome everybody welcome to the 14 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:26,959 countdown to mars 15 00:02:31,190 --> 00:02:29,440 virtual nasa social i'm your host eve 16 00:02:33,589 --> 00:02:31,200 lamothe i'm with the exploration ground 17 00:02:36,309 --> 00:02:33,599 systems com systems project manager 18 00:02:37,830 --> 00:02:36,319 and with me today is the one and only 19 00:02:39,830 --> 00:02:37,840 maddie maddie how are we doing today 20 00:02:41,830 --> 00:02:39,840 i am great it is always a pleasure to be 21 00:02:43,430 --> 00:02:41,840 here with you my gosh you know if you're 22 00:02:45,190 --> 00:02:43,440 great and it means i'm great so let's 23 00:02:46,630 --> 00:02:45,200 make everyone else great right so 24 00:02:48,470 --> 00:02:46,640 talk to us a little bit maddie perfect 25 00:02:48,869 --> 00:02:48,480 so we're going to have two very special 26 00:02:50,790 --> 00:02:48,879 guests 27 00:02:52,550 --> 00:02:50,800 joining us today and while you're 28 00:02:54,630 --> 00:02:52,560 watching we're encouraging you to 29 00:02:57,350 --> 00:02:54,640 drop your comments either in the youtube 30 00:02:58,550 --> 00:02:57,360 chat the virtual nasa social facebook 31 00:03:01,030 --> 00:02:58,560 group or on twitter 32 00:03:01,830 --> 00:03:01,040 using using the hashtag countdown to 33 00:03:04,149 --> 00:03:01,840 mars 34 00:03:05,910 --> 00:03:04,159 awesome fantastic so again folks we are 35 00:03:06,630 --> 00:03:05,920 here to talk about the perseverance 36 00:03:08,869 --> 00:03:06,640 mission 37 00:03:10,229 --> 00:03:08,879 right nasa we're always doing um you 38 00:03:13,350 --> 00:03:10,239 know exciting things 39 00:03:15,670 --> 00:03:13,360 and with us today we have dr z dr z 40 00:03:17,270 --> 00:03:15,680 is the is an associate administrator for 41 00:03:18,949 --> 00:03:17,280 the science science mission 42 00:03:20,710 --> 00:03:18,959 directorate and he's going to tell us a 43 00:03:22,149 --> 00:03:20,720 little bit about his role and what he 44 00:03:23,190 --> 00:03:22,159 does in regards to the perseverance 45 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:23,200 mission dr z 46 00:03:27,190 --> 00:03:25,120 how's it going today i'm doing well live 47 00:03:28,789 --> 00:03:27,200 sorry you i'm doing fantastic thanks 48 00:03:29,350 --> 00:03:28,799 again for being here with us i'm so 49 00:03:31,190 --> 00:03:29,360 excited 50 00:03:32,630 --> 00:03:31,200 so so please talk to us this is this is 51 00:03:34,949 --> 00:03:32,640 such an exciting moment and 52 00:03:36,710 --> 00:03:34,959 i know our guests are you know very 53 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:36,720 envious to learn all about what's going 54 00:03:40,309 --> 00:03:38,400 on here um here 55 00:03:41,830 --> 00:03:40,319 absolutely happy i'm so excited to have 56 00:03:43,910 --> 00:03:41,840 all these 57 00:03:46,949 --> 00:03:43,920 social media friends all over the world 58 00:03:48,869 --> 00:03:46,959 with us this truly is an international 59 00:03:50,630 --> 00:03:48,879 view that we have here you know like so 60 00:03:53,830 --> 00:03:50,640 many of these instruments 61 00:03:54,630 --> 00:03:53,840 were built in other countries france 62 00:03:58,070 --> 00:03:54,640 norway 63 00:04:00,869 --> 00:03:58,080 you know and in spain for example 64 00:04:01,429 --> 00:04:00,879 and we're really working on this so my 65 00:04:04,149 --> 00:04:01,439 job 66 00:04:04,710 --> 00:04:04,159 you asked that what it is is is to lead 67 00:04:07,830 --> 00:04:04,720 nasa 68 00:04:09,990 --> 00:04:07,840 science program so as part of that 69 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:10,000 we have about 105 missions that we're 70 00:04:12,550 --> 00:04:11,680 currently working on i can tell you some 71 00:04:14,309 --> 00:04:12,560 of these 72 00:04:16,229 --> 00:04:14,319 missions are absolute classics you know 73 00:04:17,509 --> 00:04:16,239 about the hubble space telescope you 74 00:04:19,430 --> 00:04:17,519 know of course about 75 00:04:21,270 --> 00:04:19,440 curiosity that's already there you know 76 00:04:23,670 --> 00:04:21,280 about the parker solar probe 77 00:04:25,270 --> 00:04:23,680 and you know about some of these amazing 78 00:04:28,310 --> 00:04:25,280 earth science missions 79 00:04:30,950 --> 00:04:28,320 that are in fact even now today 80 00:04:32,950 --> 00:04:30,960 providing information that improves and 81 00:04:36,790 --> 00:04:32,960 protects life on earth so we have 82 00:04:38,870 --> 00:04:36,800 a broad set of portfolios this mission 83 00:04:41,270 --> 00:04:38,880 is really a jewel in it and i'll tell 84 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:41,280 you what's special about it 85 00:04:45,350 --> 00:04:42,720 one of the questions we're really 86 00:04:47,350 --> 00:04:45,360 focused on in all of science 87 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:47,360 not just in planetary science but in all 88 00:04:51,590 --> 00:04:49,199 of science it's the question 89 00:04:52,310 --> 00:04:51,600 that people have asked for thousands of 90 00:04:54,710 --> 00:04:52,320 years which 91 00:04:55,749 --> 00:04:54,720 is there a life elsewhere you know 92 00:04:58,070 --> 00:04:55,759 philosophers 93 00:04:59,590 --> 00:04:58,080 have asked that there's books full of it 94 00:05:02,390 --> 00:04:59,600 well we're ready we believe 95 00:05:04,110 --> 00:05:02,400 to start answering that question with 96 00:05:05,909 --> 00:05:04,120 missions that are focused on 97 00:05:08,390 --> 00:05:05,919 astrobiology 98 00:05:10,230 --> 00:05:08,400 focused on that question this is nasa's 99 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:10,240 first astrobiology mission 100 00:05:13,749 --> 00:05:12,720 that we have done for for many many 101 00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:13,759 decades 102 00:05:17,990 --> 00:05:16,560 i would argue that really since viking 103 00:05:19,990 --> 00:05:18,000 we're ready now 104 00:05:21,670 --> 00:05:20,000 to ask that question is there life 105 00:05:23,110 --> 00:05:21,680 elsewhere based on the work that 106 00:05:25,350 --> 00:05:23,120 happened before by the way 107 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:25,360 there's others behind it the dragonfly 108 00:05:29,670 --> 00:05:27,280 mission to titan is another 109 00:05:30,790 --> 00:05:29,680 astrobiology mission and frankly many of 110 00:05:32,710 --> 00:05:30,800 the other missions even 111 00:05:34,150 --> 00:05:32,720 telescopes that are looking at planets 112 00:05:37,029 --> 00:05:34,160 like james webb have 113 00:05:38,870 --> 00:05:37,039 astrobiology contents that are part of 114 00:05:39,830 --> 00:05:38,880 that like looking at atmospheres of 115 00:05:42,469 --> 00:05:39,840 exoplanets 116 00:05:43,430 --> 00:05:42,479 so when i look at this i think of that 117 00:05:45,670 --> 00:05:43,440 question 118 00:05:47,110 --> 00:05:45,680 and the importance of asking that 119 00:05:50,870 --> 00:05:47,120 question now 120 00:05:53,110 --> 00:05:50,880 today in 2020 as we go forward 121 00:05:54,150 --> 00:05:53,120 wow wow so i mean just just with that 122 00:05:56,469 --> 00:05:54,160 alone i already 123 00:05:58,150 --> 00:05:56,479 have a thousand questions in my head um 124 00:05:59,430 --> 00:05:58,160 but before before we do that maddie do 125 00:06:00,629 --> 00:05:59,440 we have any questions um from the 126 00:06:01,990 --> 00:06:00,639 audience yet i don't want to take all 127 00:06:04,390 --> 00:06:02,000 the time or anything like that 128 00:06:06,469 --> 00:06:04,400 yes we do so first question from social 129 00:06:08,469 --> 00:06:06,479 media is how does perseverance differ 130 00:06:09,510 --> 00:06:08,479 from curiosity and the types of science 131 00:06:12,469 --> 00:06:09,520 it will perform 132 00:06:14,070 --> 00:06:12,479 love that question so curiosity was 133 00:06:15,990 --> 00:06:14,080 really the mission 134 00:06:17,110 --> 00:06:16,000 the first mission after spared an 135 00:06:18,629 --> 00:06:17,120 opportunity remember experience 136 00:06:20,469 --> 00:06:18,639 opportunity i had one 137 00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:20,479 kind of objective which is to follow the 138 00:06:23,909 --> 00:06:22,560 water you look at mars you think hey 139 00:06:26,070 --> 00:06:23,919 some of these things look almost look 140 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:26,080 like channels was there water well it's 141 00:06:28,309 --> 00:06:26,560 actually 142 00:06:30,070 --> 00:06:28,319 easy to ask that question really hard to 143 00:06:33,350 --> 00:06:30,080 prove that it was there you have to go 144 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:33,360 land and look at it and what we found is 145 00:06:38,550 --> 00:06:35,520 not only was there water there it 146 00:06:40,870 --> 00:06:38,560 the signs of water were everywhere 147 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:40,880 like river deltas you know kind of 148 00:06:44,790 --> 00:06:42,720 microscopic structures that look just 149 00:06:47,590 --> 00:06:44,800 like some of the things on earth 150 00:06:48,070 --> 00:06:47,600 and so what curiosity did it went there 151 00:06:52,790 --> 00:06:48,080 with 152 00:06:54,629 --> 00:06:52,800 still the best instruments that i have 153 00:06:57,510 --> 00:06:54,639 ever been on mars looking at that such 154 00:06:59,189 --> 00:06:57,520 as mass spectrometry looking at 155 00:07:01,189 --> 00:06:59,199 molecules that were there basically 156 00:07:02,710 --> 00:07:01,199 saying what do we have any of the 157 00:07:03,830 --> 00:07:02,720 organic so we have water which is a 158 00:07:05,990 --> 00:07:03,840 major ingredient 159 00:07:06,870 --> 00:07:06,000 do we have complex chemistry which is 160 00:07:09,110 --> 00:07:06,880 another one 161 00:07:11,110 --> 00:07:09,120 together with energy there's one of the 162 00:07:13,270 --> 00:07:11,120 key ingredients for life 163 00:07:14,629 --> 00:07:13,280 and the answer is yes with an 164 00:07:16,950 --> 00:07:14,639 exclamation mark just like 165 00:07:18,710 --> 00:07:16,960 water yes with an exclamation mark and 166 00:07:20,150 --> 00:07:18,720 now what we're now doing is basically 167 00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:20,160 saying okay 168 00:07:24,550 --> 00:07:22,319 so now we know that now it's we're ready 169 00:07:25,350 --> 00:07:24,560 to ask the direct question is there life 170 00:07:26,790 --> 00:07:25,360 there and 171 00:07:29,029 --> 00:07:26,800 the instruments that we have there 172 00:07:31,350 --> 00:07:29,039 frankly are there to equip 173 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:31,360 us to get the right samples all the 174 00:07:34,710 --> 00:07:32,560 instruments whether it's 175 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:34,720 the ground penetrating radar whether 176 00:07:37,909 --> 00:07:36,800 it's the cameras whether it's the 177 00:07:40,309 --> 00:07:37,919 spectrometers 178 00:07:41,430 --> 00:07:40,319 are are getting us ready to pick the 179 00:07:43,189 --> 00:07:41,440 right samples 180 00:07:45,749 --> 00:07:43,199 because what we believe that question 181 00:07:47,830 --> 00:07:45,759 about life needs to be answered with the 182 00:07:48,869 --> 00:07:47,840 best labs available to humanity not the 183 00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:48,879 best laps we can 184 00:07:52,469 --> 00:07:51,120 put on our rover the best laps available 185 00:07:54,150 --> 00:07:52,479 to humanity which are 186 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:54,160 the labs right here so we're going to 187 00:08:00,390 --> 00:07:56,960 bring it back and in 26 we expect to 188 00:08:02,469 --> 00:08:00,400 launch a launch right from here i'm sure 189 00:08:03,909 --> 00:08:02,479 with a launch vehicle in it it's 190 00:08:07,029 --> 00:08:03,919 humanity's first 191 00:08:07,749 --> 00:08:07,039 another planet so we're going to land 192 00:08:10,790 --> 00:08:07,759 there 193 00:08:13,510 --> 00:08:10,800 in uh 27 or so and then 194 00:08:15,110 --> 00:08:13,520 in 29 or so we're going to take off off 195 00:08:17,510 --> 00:08:15,120 the surface of 196 00:08:18,629 --> 00:08:17,520 mars with that rocket and then bring 197 00:08:21,510 --> 00:08:18,639 those samples back 198 00:08:23,350 --> 00:08:21,520 and in early 31 we'll have them here and 199 00:08:25,350 --> 00:08:23,360 we're going to answer that question with 200 00:08:28,309 --> 00:08:25,360 the best lab so we're preparing 201 00:08:29,830 --> 00:08:28,319 for that 10 year long exploration and 202 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:29,840 perseverance is really the 203 00:08:34,469 --> 00:08:33,200 start gate for that wow amazing so can 204 00:08:35,990 --> 00:08:34,479 can they talk to each other can 205 00:08:37,350 --> 00:08:36,000 curiosity and 206 00:08:39,190 --> 00:08:37,360 perseverance are they able to 207 00:08:41,909 --> 00:08:39,200 communicate with one another if they had 208 00:08:44,470 --> 00:08:41,919 a reason to say hi to each other 209 00:08:47,030 --> 00:08:44,480 the way they would do it is to go up 210 00:08:49,350 --> 00:08:47,040 into orbit uh with one of the spacecraft 211 00:08:51,110 --> 00:08:49,360 going over it and then down to them 212 00:08:52,710 --> 00:08:51,120 uh and to the other one they don't 213 00:08:53,030 --> 00:08:52,720 they're in very different regions you 214 00:08:55,269 --> 00:08:53,040 know 215 00:08:57,430 --> 00:08:55,279 if you look at that very often we forget 216 00:09:00,230 --> 00:08:57,440 how big mars really is so if you 217 00:09:01,990 --> 00:09:00,240 took all the ocean um away from the 218 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:02,000 earth and just look at the land mass and 219 00:09:05,509 --> 00:09:03,680 you compare the land mass of earth with 220 00:09:06,949 --> 00:09:05,519 mars it's roughly the same 221 00:09:09,110 --> 00:09:06,959 so in other words you know one of them 222 00:09:11,190 --> 00:09:09,120 is if you want 223 00:09:13,430 --> 00:09:11,200 in asia and the other one is in north 224 00:09:15,190 --> 00:09:13,440 america right very far apart from each 225 00:09:15,990 --> 00:09:15,200 other right and so that's how you should 226 00:09:18,310 --> 00:09:16,000 think about 227 00:09:20,550 --> 00:09:18,320 curiosity and perseverance so they could 228 00:09:21,030 --> 00:09:20,560 if there was a good uh reason for it but 229 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:21,040 uh 230 00:09:26,470 --> 00:09:24,560 missions exactly right and 231 00:09:27,990 --> 00:09:26,480 we're by the way curiosity we're still 232 00:09:29,910 --> 00:09:28,000 pushing the envelope at that you know 233 00:09:31,910 --> 00:09:29,920 make no mistake just like how we've 234 00:09:33,670 --> 00:09:31,920 kind of done uh spirit and opportunity 235 00:09:35,190 --> 00:09:33,680 to the best of our ability kind of 236 00:09:37,110 --> 00:09:35,200 squeeze all the signs out of 237 00:09:38,389 --> 00:09:37,120 it and there was a lot of signs there 238 00:09:39,829 --> 00:09:38,399 we're still doing the same with 239 00:09:42,550 --> 00:09:39,839 curiosity as well as some of the 240 00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:42,560 orbiting uh assets that we have also 241 00:09:46,470 --> 00:09:44,560 amazing amazing what else we have from 242 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:46,480 the audience yeah so we'll do one more 243 00:09:49,910 --> 00:09:48,000 question from social 244 00:09:52,310 --> 00:09:49,920 how did you prepare the rover for the 245 00:09:54,389 --> 00:09:52,320 harsh conditions on mars 246 00:09:56,230 --> 00:09:54,399 yeah it's a really good question also 247 00:09:58,470 --> 00:09:56,240 and you know it's one of those things 248 00:10:00,230 --> 00:09:58,480 the way we prepare it is to run them 249 00:10:00,470 --> 00:10:00,240 through the ringer i mean we beat them 250 00:10:03,430 --> 00:10:00,480 up 251 00:10:03,990 --> 00:10:03,440 we shake them we heat and we cool and we 252 00:10:10,790 --> 00:10:04,000 we 253 00:10:12,150 --> 00:10:10,800 blast sound at it at a volume that's 254 00:10:14,550 --> 00:10:12,160 very very high so 255 00:10:15,590 --> 00:10:14,560 everything is ready to deposit best of 256 00:10:18,310 --> 00:10:15,600 our ability 257 00:10:19,430 --> 00:10:18,320 to go there even testing in the dirt 258 00:10:21,829 --> 00:10:19,440 right of 259 00:10:23,430 --> 00:10:21,839 kind of quasi vacuum just like mars and 260 00:10:24,310 --> 00:10:23,440 making sure that everything works 261 00:10:26,949 --> 00:10:24,320 exactly 262 00:10:28,310 --> 00:10:26,959 like it should so this rover sitting on 263 00:10:31,190 --> 00:10:28,320 top of this rocket has 264 00:10:32,310 --> 00:10:31,200 persevered you know it has persevered a 265 00:10:34,790 --> 00:10:32,320 lot of testing 266 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:34,800 uh kind of to the extent that frankly 267 00:10:37,829 --> 00:10:36,000 pretty much no other 268 00:10:40,550 --> 00:10:37,839 spacecraft has because it has to survive 269 00:10:42,790 --> 00:10:40,560 launch the cruise in vacuum and then 270 00:10:44,150 --> 00:10:42,800 operation in uh in the martian 271 00:10:46,230 --> 00:10:44,160 atmosphere which are really three 272 00:10:48,150 --> 00:10:46,240 totally different environments wow 273 00:10:50,230 --> 00:10:48,160 amazing so i mean in just this little 274 00:10:50,870 --> 00:10:50,240 short bit i think i've learned so much 275 00:10:52,949 --> 00:10:50,880 about 276 00:10:54,630 --> 00:10:52,959 um the mission itself and the 277 00:10:56,870 --> 00:10:54,640 capabilities of this 278 00:10:58,310 --> 00:10:56,880 beautiful machine are there any final 279 00:11:00,389 --> 00:10:58,320 thoughts that you want to leave us with 280 00:11:01,750 --> 00:11:00,399 for today i really appreciate that so 281 00:11:04,470 --> 00:11:01,760 when i looked at this rocket 282 00:11:06,069 --> 00:11:04,480 and i saw it roll out yesterday i 283 00:11:06,550 --> 00:11:06,079 remember of course that the rover is 284 00:11:09,750 --> 00:11:06,560 called 285 00:11:13,030 --> 00:11:09,760 perseverance and the helicopter 286 00:11:14,870 --> 00:11:13,040 is called ingenuity but what i want to 287 00:11:16,470 --> 00:11:14,880 just tell everybody is that i also 288 00:11:18,389 --> 00:11:16,480 remember and i think we also remember 289 00:11:20,949 --> 00:11:18,399 that with 290 00:11:23,430 --> 00:11:20,959 these uh you know vehicles up there is 291 00:11:25,990 --> 00:11:23,440 the perseverance and the injuries of 292 00:11:26,949 --> 00:11:26,000 thousands of people individuals that 293 00:11:29,430 --> 00:11:26,959 gave their all 294 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:29,440 their sweat their tears to make sure 295 00:11:34,069 --> 00:11:31,440 that we're ready for that and i think 296 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:34,079 when we see that launch tomorrow we need 297 00:11:37,509 --> 00:11:35,760 to remember that it's for them 298 00:11:39,430 --> 00:11:37,519 for that for their sake that we're 299 00:11:41,509 --> 00:11:39,440 actually able to do this launch this 300 00:11:42,630 --> 00:11:41,519 was very hard to get ready especially in 301 00:11:43,829 --> 00:11:42,640 the time we're in 302 00:11:45,750 --> 00:11:43,839 but it's the perseverance and the 303 00:11:48,150 --> 00:11:45,760 ingenuity of each one of them 304 00:11:49,910 --> 00:11:48,160 that got us there so thanks for that dr 305 00:11:50,470 --> 00:11:49,920 z and that is such a beautiful message 306 00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:50,480 because 307 00:11:53,750 --> 00:11:52,320 to me what i'm getting from that is as a 308 00:11:56,389 --> 00:11:53,760 people we will 309 00:11:57,430 --> 00:11:56,399 we will persevere right we will explore 310 00:11:59,750 --> 00:11:57,440 this beautiful 311 00:12:00,870 --> 00:11:59,760 landscape called space and we'll find 312 00:12:02,870 --> 00:12:00,880 out exactly what 313 00:12:04,710 --> 00:12:02,880 what we have going on there and speaking 314 00:12:05,590 --> 00:12:04,720 of perseverance guys let's take a closer 315 00:12:08,870 --> 00:12:05,600 look into 316 00:12:12,910 --> 00:12:08,880 what this mission is all about we 317 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:12,920 are a species of explorers 318 00:12:20,069 --> 00:12:17,590 [Music] 319 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:20,079 not because they are easy but because 320 00:12:23,750 --> 00:12:20,880 they are hard 321 00:12:26,230 --> 00:12:23,760 we are willing to do the hard things to 322 00:12:29,170 --> 00:12:26,240 overcome the many challenges 323 00:12:30,790 --> 00:12:29,180 this is what brings out the best in us 324 00:12:33,910 --> 00:12:30,800 [Music] 325 00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:33,920 our path has led to success and to 326 00:12:36,949 --> 00:12:34,720 bitter losses 327 00:12:38,949 --> 00:12:36,959 we come together today to mourn the loss 328 00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:38,959 of seven brave americans 329 00:12:47,670 --> 00:12:43,120 yet even when faced with tragedy 330 00:12:51,110 --> 00:12:47,680 and setbacks we persevere 331 00:12:54,150 --> 00:12:51,120 we keep striving we 332 00:12:57,350 --> 00:12:54,160 keep believing from space 333 00:12:58,069 --> 00:12:57,360 we see our planet as a whole we see the 334 00:13:05,030 --> 00:12:58,079 challenges 335 00:13:08,629 --> 00:13:05,040 together we will not give 336 00:13:10,949 --> 00:13:08,639 up we challenge convention we refuse to 337 00:13:14,069 --> 00:13:10,959 accept the status quo 338 00:13:17,590 --> 00:13:14,079 the time at hand is hard but 339 00:13:18,470 --> 00:13:17,600 we will persevere we can still draw hope 340 00:13:22,150 --> 00:13:18,480 from the moon 341 00:13:25,829 --> 00:13:22,160 and the stars from space 342 00:13:29,190 --> 00:13:25,839 from exploration there is a new day 343 00:13:32,310 --> 00:13:29,200 beyond the challenges we face now 344 00:13:35,190 --> 00:13:32,320 curiosity spirit 345 00:13:37,269 --> 00:13:35,200 opportunity if you think about it all of 346 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:37,279 these names of past mars rovers are 347 00:13:41,430 --> 00:13:38,910 qualities we possess as humans 348 00:13:43,670 --> 00:13:41,440 [Music] 349 00:13:45,509 --> 00:13:43,680 we have ignition sequence stars but if 350 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:45,519 rovers are to be the qualities of us as 351 00:13:56,330 --> 00:13:59,829 [Music] 352 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:04,949 of explorers 353 00:14:10,150 --> 00:14:07,990 we will meet many obstacles on our way 354 00:14:11,509 --> 00:14:10,160 to mars 355 00:14:14,870 --> 00:14:11,519 [Music] 356 00:14:18,949 --> 00:14:14,880 but as humans will 357 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:30,150 we will always persevere 358 00:14:33,430 --> 00:14:31,680 welcome back folks we hope you enjoyed 359 00:14:35,110 --> 00:14:33,440 that little snippet into what's going on 360 00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:35,120 with the perseverance mission 361 00:14:38,870 --> 00:14:37,120 once again i am your host yves lamothe 362 00:14:39,910 --> 00:14:38,880 i'm with the exploration ground systems 363 00:14:42,069 --> 00:14:39,920 comp systems 364 00:14:44,790 --> 00:14:42,079 as the project manager and we're back 365 00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:44,800 here again and this time with us is dr 366 00:14:48,629 --> 00:14:47,680 laurie glaze lori how's it going today 367 00:14:51,189 --> 00:14:48,639 uh it's great 368 00:14:51,670 --> 00:14:51,199 uh excitement is growing it is great i 369 00:14:53,269 --> 00:14:51,680 mean 370 00:14:55,509 --> 00:14:53,279 we're already excited about everything 371 00:14:57,189 --> 00:14:55,519 that dr z had to say and i tell you i 372 00:14:58,710 --> 00:14:57,199 bet we can sit with you guys for an 373 00:15:00,150 --> 00:14:58,720 entire day and it wouldn't be enough 374 00:15:02,470 --> 00:15:00,160 just to get more insight 375 00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:02,480 into what actually went into making all 376 00:15:05,110 --> 00:15:03,600 of this happen so 377 00:15:07,509 --> 00:15:05,120 can you tell us a little bit about your 378 00:15:09,829 --> 00:15:07,519 role in the perseverance mission 379 00:15:11,350 --> 00:15:09,839 you bet so i'm the director for the 380 00:15:14,710 --> 00:15:11,360 planetary science division 381 00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:14,720 at nasa and what that means is i oversee 382 00:15:19,189 --> 00:15:15,760 a program 383 00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:19,199 that develops spacecraft but also funds 384 00:15:23,670 --> 00:15:21,600 and supports a lot of science research 385 00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:23,680 that's all focused on trying to answer 386 00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:25,440 really important questions about how the 387 00:15:29,910 --> 00:15:27,600 planets and how the solar system formed 388 00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:29,920 how it has evolved and trying to 389 00:15:33,509 --> 00:15:31,680 understand what types of environments 390 00:15:34,870 --> 00:15:33,519 where life might form which is the field 391 00:15:36,230 --> 00:15:34,880 of astrobiology 392 00:15:38,389 --> 00:15:36,240 understanding those environments 393 00:15:40,150 --> 00:15:38,399 understanding how life comes to be 394 00:15:41,829 --> 00:15:40,160 and whether or not it can be sustained 395 00:15:43,509 --> 00:15:41,839 in various places so are you saying 396 00:15:45,590 --> 00:15:43,519 we're going to we're going to be gods 397 00:15:46,870 --> 00:15:45,600 figure out how to create life i didn't 398 00:15:48,710 --> 00:15:46,880 say we were going to create it i said 399 00:15:50,310 --> 00:15:48,720 we're trying to understand 400 00:15:53,189 --> 00:15:50,320 the environments where it can form in 401 00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:53,199 the environments where it can 402 00:15:56,230 --> 00:15:55,360 truly be amazing feat i mean i bet it's 403 00:15:57,749 --> 00:15:56,240 exciting 404 00:15:59,110 --> 00:15:57,759 all the things we can learn so i want to 405 00:16:00,949 --> 00:15:59,120 get right into the questions because i 406 00:16:02,629 --> 00:16:00,959 know our time is limited and i know our 407 00:16:04,310 --> 00:16:02,639 guests are chomping at the bit to 408 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:04,320 get their questions answered so maddie 409 00:16:07,990 --> 00:16:05,680 what do we have yeah so 410 00:16:10,150 --> 00:16:08,000 first question is how does the rover 411 00:16:13,590 --> 00:16:10,160 search for signs of past life 412 00:16:15,910 --> 00:16:13,600 that is an absolutely great question so 413 00:16:17,110 --> 00:16:15,920 one of the things that it does is it's 414 00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:17,120 carrying 415 00:16:20,470 --> 00:16:18,880 multiple instruments which i think dr z 416 00:16:22,629 --> 00:16:20,480 mentioned a few of them 417 00:16:24,550 --> 00:16:22,639 we're carrying an instrument called 418 00:16:26,470 --> 00:16:24,560 sherlock and an instrument called pixel 419 00:16:28,470 --> 00:16:26,480 and an instrument um called super cam 420 00:16:32,790 --> 00:16:28,480 and those three instruments together 421 00:16:35,030 --> 00:16:32,800 are a fantastic very sophisticated suite 422 00:16:37,590 --> 00:16:35,040 of spectrometers that can 423 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:37,600 look at the chemical makeup at a 424 00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:38,480 microscopic 425 00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:40,000 scale on the surface and so they're 426 00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:41,360 going to look at the minerals that are 427 00:16:44,389 --> 00:16:43,279 present the rocks and the minerals 428 00:16:46,069 --> 00:16:44,399 and they're going to measure the 429 00:16:47,030 --> 00:16:46,079 chemistry they're going to understand or 430 00:16:49,350 --> 00:16:47,040 help us to understand 431 00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:49,360 what elements are are present there are 432 00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:51,360 the building blocks for life present the 433 00:16:56,069 --> 00:16:53,440 hydrogen the carbon the nitrogen 434 00:16:57,509 --> 00:16:56,079 the oxygen are those elements there 435 00:16:59,910 --> 00:16:57,519 they're going to look for 436 00:17:01,189 --> 00:16:59,920 other types of bio signatures looking 437 00:17:02,949 --> 00:17:01,199 again at that chemicals 438 00:17:04,470 --> 00:17:02,959 that are present in those rocks and they 439 00:17:05,350 --> 00:17:04,480 do it in different ways each of those 440 00:17:06,710 --> 00:17:05,360 instruments 441 00:17:08,789 --> 00:17:06,720 and that'll help us put together a 442 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:08,799 picture a puzzle that says 443 00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:11,760 um you know are these the right pieces 444 00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:13,520 that you need those building blocks to 445 00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:14,160 actually 446 00:17:17,829 --> 00:17:16,559 uh put the things that form life the 447 00:17:20,150 --> 00:17:17,839 things that we've seen 448 00:17:21,029 --> 00:17:20,160 at least on earth that that that come 449 00:17:23,429 --> 00:17:21,039 together to 450 00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:23,439 to result in life so that's what we're 451 00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:25,679 going to be looking for and as dr z said 452 00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:27,520 we'll use that information as we find 453 00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:29,760 those places that have those signatures 454 00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:32,720 potential bio signatures to guide us 455 00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:34,000 into the places where we want to take 456 00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:35,520 those drill samples and actually get 457 00:17:39,430 --> 00:17:37,200 those precious samples back here 458 00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:39,440 to study okay so i want to ask a 459 00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:41,840 somewhat simple but complicated question 460 00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:44,160 and it is you know being that the 461 00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:46,000 there's atmospheric differences between 462 00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:49,360 earth and mars is there a concern as to 463 00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:51,440 how those samples you collect would 464 00:17:54,950 --> 00:17:53,200 behave on earth versus 465 00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:54,960 in their natural element which would be 466 00:17:58,710 --> 00:17:56,880 mars that's actually a really good 467 00:17:59,990 --> 00:17:58,720 question because you're absolutely right 468 00:18:02,150 --> 00:18:00,000 there they've existed 469 00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:02,160 here in a carbon dioxide atmosphere on 470 00:18:05,590 --> 00:18:03,200 mars 471 00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:05,600 for billions of years and certainly if 472 00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:07,200 we introduce them into our 473 00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:09,200 oxygen-rich atmosphere things are going 474 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:10,480 to start to happen 475 00:18:14,230 --> 00:18:12,640 so we're going to be very very careful 476 00:18:15,909 --> 00:18:14,240 actually for many reasons we're going to 477 00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:15,919 be very careful but we'll have those 478 00:18:19,909 --> 00:18:18,240 sample tubes once we collect them 479 00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:19,919 contained in multiple layers of 480 00:18:23,669 --> 00:18:22,160 containment partly just to keep us safe 481 00:18:25,590 --> 00:18:23,679 in case there is something 482 00:18:27,669 --> 00:18:25,600 that might be in there that we don't 483 00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:27,679 want but we're going to keep it all very 484 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:29,760 safe and contained and then once we get 485 00:18:34,150 --> 00:18:31,120 it here we'll keep it in 486 00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:34,160 a in an environment that's very similar 487 00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:34,640 to 488 00:18:40,070 --> 00:18:38,880 sample tubes they don't have any adverse 489 00:18:43,270 --> 00:18:40,080 reactions that we're 490 00:18:45,430 --> 00:18:43,280 we're going to make sure that we can 491 00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:45,440 uh extract the science that we want from 492 00:18:48,549 --> 00:18:46,559 those cells 493 00:18:50,470 --> 00:18:48,559 understand matty yeah we got another 494 00:18:52,310 --> 00:18:50,480 question from social media 495 00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:52,320 what is the type of samples that the 496 00:18:56,230 --> 00:18:54,840 rover is capable of analyzing and 497 00:18:59,669 --> 00:18:56,240 recognizing 498 00:19:02,150 --> 00:18:59,679 so the the the samples that the uh 499 00:19:03,430 --> 00:19:02,160 rover itself is going to analyze again 500 00:19:05,350 --> 00:19:03,440 it can look at 501 00:19:08,549 --> 00:19:05,360 the rocks in general using imaging it 502 00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:08,559 can use broad scale imaging microscopic 503 00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:09,520 imaging 504 00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:11,919 we're going to laze some of them with 505 00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:13,760 lasers and make little plasmas that we 506 00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:14,880 can observe 507 00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:16,720 we've also got x-ray imagers that can 508 00:19:19,669 --> 00:19:18,400 look at the rocks and get us the 509 00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:19,679 information 510 00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:22,400 and again we'll we'll use all of that to 511 00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:23,840 help us pick where we want to take the 512 00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:26,000 samples and then as dr z says we've got 513 00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:28,000 really sophisticated equipment here on 514 00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:29,120 earth we want to get them back here 515 00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:30,400 where we can do the the final 516 00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:31,600 announcements the water 517 00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:33,440 included in that as well so anywhere 518 00:19:37,270 --> 00:19:35,440 like those channels exist as dr z 519 00:19:37,990 --> 00:19:37,280 mentioned are is going to evaluate those 520 00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:38,000 channels as well 521 00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:41,280 and look for signs of it will yes and in 522 00:19:44,070 --> 00:19:43,120 fact we're going to a really special 523 00:19:46,230 --> 00:19:44,080 place on mars 524 00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:46,240 because we know that in the past mars 525 00:19:49,990 --> 00:19:48,320 was warmer and wetter and had a 526 00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:50,000 higher density atmosphere we know the 527 00:19:53,430 --> 00:19:51,760 climate changed over time but 528 00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:53,440 in the past three and a half billion 529 00:19:57,669 --> 00:19:55,679 years ago it was warm and wet and there 530 00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:57,679 was a standing lake standing body of 531 00:20:00,150 --> 00:19:59,520 water in jezreel crater where we're 532 00:20:02,950 --> 00:20:00,160 going 533 00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:02,960 and a river flowed into that lake and 534 00:20:06,630 --> 00:20:03,840 when it flowed in 535 00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:06,640 it dropped its sediment onto that floor 536 00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:07,600 of the crater 537 00:20:10,710 --> 00:20:09,360 leaving a delta just like we see here 538 00:20:13,909 --> 00:20:10,720 where rivers run into 539 00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:13,919 oceans and lakes and so those will be 540 00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:15,600 very very important that particular 541 00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:17,760 geologic feature is very important 542 00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:19,600 because that is exactly the kind of 543 00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:20,400 place 544 00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:22,720 you could preserve those early micro 545 00:20:25,430 --> 00:20:23,760 fossils of 546 00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:25,440 potential life that if it were there 547 00:20:30,149 --> 00:20:27,520 this is exactly where you would find it 548 00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:30,159 i understand yeah so we'll do a one more 549 00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:31,600 question from social 550 00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:34,000 why was the crater chosen as the landing 551 00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:35,440 site for the rover 552 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:36,960 so i think that's a great follow-on 553 00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:38,080 because that's kind of what i was just 554 00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:39,120 talking about we 555 00:20:42,710 --> 00:20:42,080 chose it specifically because we 556 00:20:44,549 --> 00:20:42,720 believed 557 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:44,559 that the conditions about three and a 558 00:20:47,990 --> 00:20:46,080 half billion years ago 559 00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:48,000 had all the pieces that you need for 560 00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:49,760 life to form we had 561 00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:52,000 water we had thermal energy because it 562 00:20:56,230 --> 00:20:53,600 was warmer 563 00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:56,240 and we had the nutrients there from the 564 00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:57,520 from the soils and 565 00:21:01,510 --> 00:20:59,600 from the from the environment and those 566 00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:01,520 are the key pieces that we need for for 567 00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:03,440 life to take form it's also about the 568 00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:05,440 same time that life started to form 569 00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:07,919 on earth and so we think at that time 570 00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:09,520 it's possible if the conditions were 571 00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:10,320 right 572 00:21:14,789 --> 00:21:12,960 uh that life would have taken hold on 573 00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:14,799 mars in that area 574 00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:18,080 and that river delta is actually feeding 575 00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:19,919 a large catchment area much 576 00:21:23,909 --> 00:21:22,000 broader than that crater itself so it's 577 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:23,919 bringing in all of those materials and 578 00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:24,960 depositing them 579 00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:27,760 right there in that delta and so if life 580 00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:30,000 were present it should be preserved in 581 00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:31,919 that in that environment and in that 582 00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:33,919 geologic feature so that's why we chose 583 00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:35,440 it specifically 584 00:21:38,950 --> 00:21:36,799 because if we're going to look for 585 00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:38,960 evidence of past life this is the kind 586 00:21:42,789 --> 00:21:40,080 of place you would want to go 587 00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:42,799 quick follow on and is do we have an 588 00:21:46,149 --> 00:21:44,159 indication as to why 589 00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:46,159 it used to be warmer in wetter and it's 590 00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:47,840 not now oh 591 00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:49,520 that's the million dollar question right 592 00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:51,039 there 593 00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:53,360 it's really a fascinating question why 594 00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:54,400 the climates change 595 00:21:59,350 --> 00:21:57,600 on the various planets we see it on mars 596 00:22:00,870 --> 00:21:59,360 we've also seen it on venus another 597 00:22:02,390 --> 00:22:00,880 planet nearby and on earth we're 598 00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:02,400 starting we've seen evidence of 599 00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:04,320 past climate changes and of course we're 600 00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:06,720 we're living in a time now where we're 601 00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:09,360 witnessing some changes so understanding 602 00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:11,200 exactly what drives those climate 603 00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:14,000 changes is a really important question 604 00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:15,440 it's not necessarily the focus of the 605 00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:17,120 perseverance mission but it's something 606 00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:18,960 that many of our other missions to mars 607 00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:20,640 are focused on and trying to understand 608 00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:21,679 the answers 609 00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:23,360 what is it that actually drives those 610 00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:25,280 changes completely understand i am going 611 00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:26,480 to tell you that that's more like a 10 612 00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:27,840 million dollar question not a one 613 00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:29,200 million dollar question 614 00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:30,640 it's probably a billion dollar question 615 00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:32,720 yeah yeah that that's actually more like 616 00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:33,840 it more like it 617 00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:38,320 well lori wow i i think that um 618 00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:40,240 it would be such a journey just to step 619 00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:41,760 inside your head for a second and 620 00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:43,360 explore the things that you know 621 00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:44,640 or the things that you've seen and 622 00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:46,400 studied um over your time 623 00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:49,120 and it is just fascinating just to learn 624 00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:50,640 and understand like how 625 00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:53,280 life actually um began like i mean it's 626 00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:55,280 like we're going back in time 627 00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:57,679 and and how amazing is that and so you 628 00:23:00,149 --> 00:22:59,520 know we definitely want to thank you so 629 00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:00,159 much for 630 00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:02,320 for coming out here and sharing that 631 00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:03,440 with us this 632 00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:05,200 this all it does is it makes this 633 00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:07,200 mission even more more exciting 634 00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:08,960 and we can't wait to see you know in 635 00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:10,240 2031 636 00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:13,120 um god willing what we're gonna find out 637 00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:15,039 about what's going on in mars so thank 638 00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:16,400 you again for coming over here 639 00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:19,039 and sharing and sharing that with us um 640 00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:21,360 so in in closing folks um please keep 641 00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:23,039 your you can definitely keep your 642 00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:25,039 your questions coming and you know we'll 643 00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:26,320 do our best to uh 644 00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:28,000 you know to get you some answers on all 645 00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:29,679 of that we want to thank dr z 646 00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:32,400 and dr and lori for coming out here and 647 00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:32,799 sharing 648 00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:34,720 all all of this with us please stay 649 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:36,320 tuned we have the 12 o'clock briefing 650 00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:37,600 coming for the mission 651 00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:39,520 um so tune into that and if you have an 652 00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:40,640 opportunity 653 00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:43,679 and uh countdown to mars it's an 654 00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:45,039 exciting thing 655 00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:47,600 it's coming and we hope that you can be 656 00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:48,400 part of it 657 00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:50,159 all right so thank you again for joining 658 00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:52,240 us today um we hope you guys have a good 659 00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:53,279 one um 660 00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:54,720 you'll see our schedule for the rest of 661 00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:56,320 the day in just a moment here 662 00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:58,080 please tune in for our other shows um 663 00:24:02,390 --> 00:23:59,440 that we have coming up on our